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close to this fiscal cliff, both sides agreeing to get serious. we have heard the house speaker will update us on the talks within that hour from house floor. we will hear what speaker banner has to say. joining us right now are to congressman. would you vote if there was an agreement? >> i think it will be a balanced plan that will increase revenues by raising the rates on upper income families, but, at the same time, agreeing to substantial cuts. connell: the reason i started by asking that question is because i am sure it is frustrating, the members of congress to not be involved in this. this is two guys behind closed doors. what about from your side of it. will the speaker have the votes, even if he gives in? >> we do not know. as you suggested, you cannot have 218 or 435 or 535 people in a room trying to negotiate. this is the way you kind of have to do it. one on one. he needs 217 other people in the house and 60 people in the senate to make that deal because law and actually ring that deal through. i do not think there is any guarantees either way. connell: what cannot b
over the fiscal cliff. what top economists are saying about your investments. >>> and is this what the fiscal cliff deal has come to? why 81-year-old former senator alan simpson is going gangnam style to get everyone's attention on debt. >> it has officially jumped the shark. >>> alan st. pierre is the executive director for the national,or for the reform of marijuana laws. oregon senator jeff merkley, heidi ewing, and rachel grady will be joining us. steve satich, ohio congressman, steve latourette, and ambassador nick burns are our guests this morning. it's thursday, december 6th, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. our starting point this morning, some major developments to tell you about in egypt, after angry protests against political moves by the president, mohamed morsi, have turned deadly. tanks, armored personnel vehicles, all stationed outside the presidential analysis cairo. not only are they guarding the palace, they're also keeping apart supporters and opponents of morsi. hundreds of his islamist supporters already taking to the streets in ca
's no plan to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff. broken record, broken record. i'm christine romans in today for john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. >>> up first, president obama standing his ground over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> that's right. they're in a tough spot here. they don't want to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal clif
laws so this is the room w where any deal on the fiscal cliff would be born or die. we have we have new information on those negotiations in just a moment.. >> that's right, it's incredible it's incre to be here in this room. we're going to talk more about mor this a little later in the show. >> surrounded by all the photographs of all the powerful house & ways means chairmen.and >>> we want to get to some of first. the news first.g with violent ski on the other side ofn the the country, thousands of of the holiday shoppers had to ask thor yesterday as a man wearing camouflage opened fire at a mall hundreds o just outside portland oregon. police say he killed two people and wounded another, then shot another, himself to death. john blackstone is at clackamass town center. john good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie and good morning to our viewers in the west. the christmas spirit quickly left this mall yesterday. one eyewitness said the gunman was wearing a hockey mask and bulletproof mask and calmly fire on announced he was the shooter before he
, president obama and john byron finally discussing the fiscal cliff. they talked by telephone yesterday. with just 26 days remaining to get a deal done, there are signs of compromise on the republican side. oklahoma's republican senator tom coburn a leading conservative saying he is okay with raising taxes on the wealthiest 2% of americans. in a few moments, soledad o'brien will talk with oregon senator is jeff merkley. he sits on the budget committee. >>> naeem davis now charged with murder for allegedly pushing a man off a new york city subway platform. davis was arraigned last night on a second-degree murder charge. police say he pushed 50-year-old ki-suk han on to the tracks and into the path of an oncoming subway train. >>> internet security pioneer john mcafee could be deported to belize as early as today. guatemalan officials detained mcafee yesterday. they accuse him of entering their country illegally. he turned up in guatemala on tuesday after disappearing from his home in belize. police there want to question mcafee in connection with a murder, his neighbor's murder. he says
seriously hampered last month's hiring. among them, concerns about the looming fiscal cliff. and other factors, as well. abc's tahman bradley has that story from washington. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff is still three weeks away. but the economy may have already taken a hit. economists predict the government's monthly jobs report, due out later this morning, will show that employers added fewer than 100,000 workers in november. superstorm sandy may be part of the reason job creation slowed. but worry over the fiscal cliff may have also had an immaterial pact. some economists believe that 200,000 fewer jobs thhave been created this year, due to uncertainty about the fiscal cliff. >> it's very important we get it done now. >> reporter: republicans and democrats are talking again. but still, no breakthrough. the parties are locked in a stalemate. president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the wealthy and a permanent extension of the debt ceiling, the government's ability to borrow money, be part of the deal. >> he's assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars out a
to help some of the nation's top business executives sell their deal on the fiscal cliff and this week the white house had a major victory on that front. the business roundtable, the group that represents some of the top business ceos changed its position and came out in support of raising the tax rate on the top 2% as part of a larger fiscal cliff deal. in a conference call today, their chairman at the business roundtable said, some executives are unhappy that we want to even mention revenues or taxes but he said everybody's got to feel a little bit like they are getting nailed and then we will know if we've got a deal. white house officials met with this group and also helped them get to this place. they said, bottom line, they knew that they thought their prospects deal was grim and this was a step they had to take to help both sides come to a deal. >> maybe it will help because a lot of these guys are very, very influential. speaking of the fiscal cliff, jessica, what did the fed chairman ben bernanke say about these current negotiations? >> well, bernanke is the man credited with
john boehner trying to negotiate a deal to keep the u.s. from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. house republicans meeting right now and we expect to hear from the house speaker at the top of the hour. dana bash, capitol hill, following the negotiations. how many times have i said fiscal cliff over the past couple months, i can't even, if i had a nickel for every time i'd be a wealthy man. >> we'd be able to avert the fiscal cliff. >> exactly, very good, so much more clever and quicker than i am. dana good morning. the president and the house speaker offered new proposals. what do you know about them, if anything? >> reporter: you know, they're being very, very careful, they're holding their cards close to the vest, which i think you know as a reporter is frustrating but as somebody who certainly wants to get, to see this solved, that that is a completely nonpart son thing to say. it maybe is a good sign, because both sides are being very careful not to let the cat out of the bag on some of the specifics because they don't want the process to blow up even before it really starts
with the fiscal cliff and dealing with our debt situation and not have a debt ceiling hanging out there as a diversionary but dangerous issue. but for some reason, inexplicable, the minority leader, the republican leader, changed his mind. now, he said on the floor well, important measures deserve 60 votes, but when he brought it up earlier, he acted as if he was in favor of it, he was offering it. and now, of course, essaying no, he's going to object to his own resolution. i wish he would reconsider. again, playing -- using the debt ceiling as leverage, using the debt ceiling as a threat, using the debt ceiling as a way to achieve a different agenda is dangerous. it's playing with fire. and yet, with the opportunity to take that off the table, reassure the markets, the minority leader blinked. i don't know why. it's hard to figure out the strategy that he's employing, but we would hope on this side of the aisle -- and i think i speak for all of us -- that he would reconsider and perhaps early next week let us vote on his own resolution. i yield the floor. mr. schumer: i notice th
leaders warning their colleagues not to make holiday plans with new doubts today over fiscal cliff negotiations. >> the president seems to be walking us ever so slowly towards the cliff. we have said we are committed to staying here. we are going to stay here right up until christmas eve. throughout the time and period before the new year. >> now, their warning followed a 15 minute phone call between john boehner and the president described as tense by the news team. a characterization, the speaker himself disputed. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town, but we have serious differences. the president and i have frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> democratic sources tell us the phone call fell apart because the latest counter proposal included an extension of tax cuts for the wealthy, a permanent extension. another that was disputed. the press secretary reiterated that is a non-starter for the president. >> they refused to accept the fundamental fact that higher income americans, millionaires and the billionaires, the top two% are not going to have t
a fallback plan for the so called "fiscal cliff", which includes extending tax cuts for the middle class and resuming a fight over spending and taxes for the wealthy later. meanwhile, going overseas, nato makes a move on the turkish border with syria. military officials deny preparations for military intervention. protesters in egypt march on the palace as mohamed morsi flees. international and domestic news is all on the table for you this morning as we open up the phone lines. also, send us a tweet. or post your comment on facebook. or send us an e-mail. we will get back to that new york times story. first, some other headlines on the domestic front. here is the "washington times." also, sticking with the senate, the baltimore sun reporting this headline -- in politics, here is the denver post -- open phones before the first 30 minutes. we have a short show because the house is coming in at 9:00. steve in gaithersburg, maryland, a republican caller. caller: host: when did the republican party become the party that restricts poor? i understand the tax cut for the rich is important to so
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about the future of labor? >>> but we begin with the latest on the fiscal cliff. republicans made another counteroffer but it's reportedly not much different from their first offer. though we don't have specifics, we do know the president and john boehner talked on the phone last night and that call, according to a republican familiar with it, was tense and lasted just 15 minutes. i want to bring in real clear politics reporter aaron mcpike and david hawkings, editor of the cq roll call daily briefing. good morning. so president obama sat down with barbara walters last night. here's what he said. >> most important thing we can do is make sure the middle class taxes do not go up on january 1st and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> so he's confident. is it almost a foregone conclusion, do you think, david, that this is going to be the first piece of the puzzle that falls into place? >> i'm pretty confident that that's going to have to be the first piece of the puzzle that falls i
on the table from both sides to avoid the fiscal cliff. so big question, do they add up? >>> plus, it has been three months to the day since terrorists attacked the u.s. mission in benghazi. secretary of state hillary clinton says the administration has done everything possible but still, no one has been brought to justice. where do we stand? >>> also, a new hollywood movie highlights the work of a cia analyst credited with tracking down osama bin laden, but here's a big but, it also sheds some very serious light on in-fighting in the spy agency. you got to hear it to believe it. let's go "outfront." >>> i'm ashleigh banfield in tonight for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, our top developing story, we are just learning now that president obama and the white house or rather, president obama and the house speaker have spoken tonight. good news. this after they each fired another shot in the ongoing fight over how to resolve this fiscal cliff mess. cnn is now getting details about two new offers that were made and previously undisclosed, too. they kept a pretty tight lid on them. one of them by
about the fiscal cliff and raising taxes on the wealthy. taxes on the wealthy are going to go up january 1st regardless what happens with the fiscal cliff. the medicare tax on higher earnersers is going up and a steep tax on investment income. >> going up 3.8% on top of it. so the rich people who have -- who are high earners, their income will probably go up. and then they also, if they have investment income, it goes up 3.8% so they are paying more that way, and they are paying more on a medicare tax. so the democrats say the rich aren't paying more. and these taxes are going up regardless what have happens with the fiscal cliff. these tacks are written in obamacare. and if taxes do i- deed go up on the top two brackets as a result of the fiscal cliff, that will be on top of the obamacare taxes. >> is there any way for us, the nation, to police the earnings or profits are insurance company under obamacare? there are all of these extra, they get the extra deals. now the insurance companies get the extra deals because they have lobbyists and probably sent them over to the white house and
coast. and we are at 27. the number of days before the nation is going to slip over the fiscal cliff and that is what people are talking about. unfortunately, in washington they are not talking to each other about it. right now president obama is meeting with the washington business roundtable. that's just minutes after speaker boehner met with rank and file gop lawmakers and former speaker pelosi met with house democrats. they are all in each other's corners speaking amongst each other but all eyes are on the fiscal cliff. let's scoot over to the president. easy merging from that meeting with the washington business leaders. let's see what he has to say. >> jim, thanks for your leadership. you know, originally my team had prepared some remarks, they always get nervous when i'm out there on my own, never know what i might say. but given the dialogue that we had the last time, i thought it was useful for me to abbreviate my remarks, speak off the cuff at the top and then most of the time just having a conversation. let me begin by saying all of you in this room are not just business l
in that thing that rhymes with fiscal cliff. while that's going on and will keep going on for a while, your united states senate is haggling over something that might be even more important to the health of the republic, at least if in the future we want to, i don't know, solve any problems ever. i'm speaking, of course, of that great scourge the filibuster. that senate only rule that allows any senator in the majority or the minority to force legislation to pass not by the standard 51 votes, but by 60. which for most bills means certain death. rarely do 60 senators agree on anything. and over the last few years, the use and abuse of the filibuster, mainly but not exclusively by republicans, has reached record-breaking senate stopping heights. so what do you do? if you are harry reid, lead other telephone democrats in the senate, you try to reform it. and if you're mitch mcconnell, the republican leader who is using it all the time because it is your main kind of power you try to stop reform of it. now there are a couple of plans for changing the fill buster to make it less common or more d
, here we go. it's been a busy week. fiscal cliff week for the most part, a lot of other -- that and a lot of other news to talk about today. we have the big job numbers coming up today as well for the month of november. it won't be quiet as critical as the job numbers were. remember that? that was right before the election. but still, it's very important. we'll be on top of that and all of the other issues for you and with you and hearing from you at 866-55-press. >> that's our toll-free number 866-557-7377. follow us on twitter. join us on twitter. more and more people do. at the whitehouse, so many of the reporters were saying how much they love following us on twitter. you should, too, at bp show @bp show @bpshow and facebook/billpressshow. team press here for the fifth day in a row all together. this is a new record action i think. here we are five days. nobody took a day off. peter ogburn and dan henning. >> happy friday. >> and cyprian bowlding wearing god knows what hat this morning. our videographer in chief. >> the washington fue
talking types that goes off the cliff. what's exposed this rift is the fiscal cliff the united states faces this january 1st. the hard righters are attacking any sign of compromise as a white flag of retreat. who is going to come out the winner in this fight? the people who make money pulling conservatives to the hard right or the people who believe conservative officeholders like liberal officeholders have a real stake in making the government work. a far bigger question, will the war on the right help the country unite and avoid the fiscal cliff or will it give the right a chance to bring the house down. with me is ron reagan and dana milbank of the "washington post." before we talk about the gop split, we should republicans in the white house have exchanged new proposal tsds today. and president obama and boehner have spoken at this time. quote, we sent the white house a counteroffer that would achieve reform to solve our looming debt crisis and create more jobs. that's all we know. dana milbank, they say it's good. they said it will solve our problems. they won't say what it is. e
fiscal cliff talks with the white house. on capitol hill for one day at least, all was pretty quiet. posturing and finger pointing kind of stopped. cnn political reporter shannon travis joins us now live from washington. what's the the latest on the talks or the silence? >> the silence seems to be golden, john. remember last week when all the players involved seem to be posturing and positioning and talking about negotiations? not so much, at least in the past few days. we know president obama and house speaker john boehner had a one-on-one meeting, right, on sunday, their first since mid-november. what were the details from that meeting and from the ongoing discussions? they're not really -- both sides are not really being forthcoming with what the substance of those conversations, both sides yesterday, the white house and the republican leadership put out statements. they're essentially the same. i'll read just one from boehner's press secretary. discussions with the white house are taking place but we have no detail to share about the substance of those conversations. the republi
as the "fiscal cliff" face-off continues in washington. >> a bay area couple plays see contract santa at walmart handing out cash and gifts to total strangers. >> hi, i'm meteorologist lawrence karnow in the cbs 5 weather center. had the showers beginning to wind down but we are getting ready for a bitter cold night. we'll talk about that coming up. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, world trade center in new yk is well on its way to completion. this morning crs began lifting the first of 8 >>> after years of delays, the new site of the one world trade center in new york is on the way to completion. this morning crews began lifting the first of 18 pieces of the spire to the top of the building. it could take three months before they finish. when it's done, it will be the tallest building in the western hemisphere. >> beautiful. >> yes. >>> today's once in a lifetime date, it's nearly -- well, it is, it's 12:12:12 on 12/12/12. the date spawns mass weddings and superstition. >> just being born on this date is lucky enough but how about entering the world exactly at 12:12 a.m.? that's what this little child did. she
-called fiscal cliff, it's important to know three numbers. 39, 37 and 64. 39% is the combined growth of inflation in population over the last 10 years. 39%. 37% is the increase in revenues in the same period. that's despite the recession and the tax cuts. not quite keeping pace but pretty close. 64% is the number that is killing us. 64% is the increase in federal spending in that period. that's nearly twice the rate of inflation and population growth over the last 10 years. now, the spending side of the fiscal cliff is the so-called sequester, automatic cuts in federal spending. some say it's the end of western civilization as we know it. it's hardly the case. after a 64% increase in expenditures during this decade, the sequester doesn't actually cut spending at all. it simply limits spending growth next year to about half of a percent. now i opposed the budget deal that created the sequester last year because it fell woefully short of what standard & poor's clearly warned was necessary to help the a.a.a. credit rating. does our defense spending really need to be higher, inflation ad
the economy move along and what he says, cushion the fall from the fiscal cliff and we will follow that on our noon news. >> we will go ahead and smile and say good morning, it is wednesday december 12th, i am dave clark. >>> a gunman is dead after shooting into a crowd at an oregon mall. sheriff's deputies say he killed two people before turning the gun on himself. joining us from portland where it all happened, good morning, dan. >> reporter: yes, good morning, pam and dave, what a horrible scene this was yesterday. 3:30 in the afternoon, exactly two weeks before christmas, this mall was teeming with shoppers and as many as 10,000 people were inside at the time when shots started ringing out. we understand from eyewitnesses a gunman walked through the macy's store of this maul and then -- mall and then walked to the food court and then fired shots and 5 to 18 more as he shot indiscriminately down the mall area here. we understand two people were killed, a third person was shot, she was wounded, a 15- year-old was taken to a local hospital and the good news is that 15-year-old girl is expecte
, that's it from the brink and the fiscal cliff is coming quickly at us. it's doing definite damage to boehner's brand. a new "washington post"/abc poll showing voters overwhelmingly disapprove of boehner's handling of the fiscal talks. it's an even split on the president. who is still sticking to his guns, urging the gop to pass tax cuts for the middle class by christmas? >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other. i think the key is to make sure that taxes go up on high end individuals like you and me. we can afford it. it is entirely possible for us to come up with a deal but time is running short. >> right to work is wrong! >>> our other story developing in michigan today, where labor unions are considering a large scale counter offensive. the home of the uaw is now the first blue right to work state after a pair of bills were signed into law by governor rick snyder who appeared on msnbc's "morning joe" today. >> i believe this is pro-worker. because the way i view it is workers now have freedom to choose. this does not deal with organizing at all. this does not deal with
the fiscal cliff, because that's important to the country. so i hope we'll have additional chances to communicate with colleagues and the public before we're done. but this is my farewell remarks, observations on 26 years of service here, and it has been an incredible experience. first thing i want to do is say thank you, to you the people of north dakota for having -- thank you to the people of north dakota for having confidence to send me to represent them in the united states national. i was 38 you about but i looke, and people of north dakota elected me in a stunging upset of a long-established incumbent, and i treasure the confidence that they have had in me. i also want to thank my colleagues for the responsibilities that they've given me, the leadership team, senator reid, senator schumer, senator murray, the confidence that they have had in me. and my staff, i have been so blessed to have people who have been with me, in many cases, for more than 20 years. my chiefs of staff, jim margolis, who has been one of the media gurus in the country now doing much of the advertising
a private phone conversation he had with president obama last night about that fiscal cliff situation. >> there were some offers that were exchanged back and forth yesterday. you know, the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> now, coming up for you at 7:45, political analysts jamie dupree will tell us about the two words we are not hearing in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> 7:36. software company founder john mcafee could soon return to the united states. his attorney says a guatemala judge has ruled that mcafee adetention in that country is illegal and he could be released as soon as today. mcafee was detained in guatemala last week after entering the country illegally to avoid police in belize who wanted to question mack afy about the fatal shooting of his neighbor. mca -- mcafee has said he wishes to return to the u.s. so he can live in peace. >>> continuing coverage on the shooting in portland, oregon. here's more. >> reporter: good morning, tori. the mall here is closed at this point while police continue their investigation and w
legislation. president obama will comment on this issue when he speaks to autoworkers about the fiscal cliff . this is fresh on the heels of his first private meeting with johnn boehner on the fiscal cliff subject. they met in the white house to discuss the differing plans and the communication lines between the two remain open. that could be a positive look since we are just three weeks away from the fiscal cliff. >> brian: we know nothing about what happened. >> gretchen: it is great. you get both sides saying he said this and she said. in this case both hings. we are hearing from the two men. when taxpayer money paid for bowles and simpson to come together to try to figure out what to do with the debsituation. that's what they came up with . a republican and democrat and sat together and this is the way washington was set up to work. theirr findings were ignored by the president and other members of congress . now they are speaking out. listen closely to the first sound bite. this is bowles, a democrat talking about the need for spending cuts. >> most important thing if we are going to ra
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walks this process the closer the economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> where are the revenues? where are the revenues? regardless of the cuts or changes of entitlements more is demanded in terms of what seniors would have to pay in to a medicare and what age that would happen. while the republicans refuse to touch one hair on the head of a the wealthiest people in our country. >> when it comes to taxes the top senate republicans said it was time for his party to give in and move on. >> what the president is trying to the achieve on the top two tax rates, you know, he can get by doing nothing. the law is certainly stacked in his favor. >> sharing the view a tack increase is all but inevitable. >> senator coburn is joining us now. you have said the tax rates are going up on the wealthiest 2% of a americans. it sounds like more republicans are coming around to your way of thinking. i understand you have been talking to republican colleagues about support ing this and insisting spending cuts. what level of support is there among your colleagues for a deal like that? >> actually what you
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of taxes are kicking in automatically. there is so much focus on fiscal cliff and bush tax cuts that would expire. you have investment tax. this tax. three different ones. medicare surtax, that will be taken, everybody's taxes are going up no matter what happens, right? >> they're going up through obamacare. throw the fiscal cliff which could potentially raise taxes dramatically. that is big reason we see a lot of consumers aren't spending as much. a lot of companies are not hiring. you're not seeing unemployment fall. we don't know. this $63 again doesn't sound like a lot of money. i'm not going to be surprised next couple years if we see a lot more of these fees really sneaking up on us. i love the administration, say most likely will go away unless congress extends it. how much do we see it could end up being twice as much. martha: you can't see congress going, oh, my gosh, 2017, time to bring back the $63, it's done, not going to happen? thinking around the holiday thinking but know that will not happen. martha: anyone can find an example where congress said, you know what, we shouldn'
have something to do with the fiscal cliff. there's a bit of a slowdown there. the economy is moving along, not as robustly as they'd like it to be, which is why they extend this to make money cheaper. >> what does that mean for businesses in terms of confidence? >> the first gauge we get is to see how markets are doing. there's a bit of a rally on the stock market as a result. you can never trust what happens immediately after these announcements because it could be traders doing things. dow subpoena a quarter there. you can see 27 basis points right now. what it means is the same thing it meant until now. we have long-term low interest rates. it's cheap to borrow money in america. it's not necessarily easy it to borrow money. lending standards are still high, and many businesses as we have seen that either have cash or access to credit are not making decisions until they have some certainty about what government is going to do. we may get that certainty as soon as we get a fiscal cliff deal, maybe january or february by the time we know what will happen. that could work. if everybo
, president obama is taking his fiscal cliff campaign back on the road again today. he is headed today redford, michigan where he will tour a diesel plant and speak to middle class workers. he will push his plan to raise encloses above 250 -- to raise taxes above $250,000 a year. president obama met with house speaker boehner for the first time in more than three weeks. the house is still refuseing to pass obama's tax plan much less agree to other policies. josh earnest is not giving any details into yesterday's. some republicans are coming around on improving higher tax rates for the wealthy. bob corker said on fox news sunday, obama does have the upper hand on taxes. oklahoma representative tom cole said on cnn's state of a union if brought to a vote they would pass the house. that goes against speaker boehner's tone who seems to believe obama's plan would not be able to pass both chambers of congress. as far as what americans think of the president right now that is pretty evenly split. the new politico battleground poll just out today has his approval r
away from the "fiscal cliff." what's allegedly going on behind the scenes between the white house and on capitol hill. ,,,,,, main opposition group as th, quote, "legitimate representative" of that >>> new at 5:00, president obama says the u.s. now recognizes syria's main opposition group as the legitimate representative of the country's people. the president's comments paved the way for greater u.s. support as the group tries to oust syrian president assad. >>> meanwhile, as the "fiscal cliff" deadline approaches, indications that the president and house speaker john boehner are reportedly talking again, at least by telephone. among the proposals, the white house may agree to less tax revenue but the speaker still wants to see what cuts the president will make. but publicly, neither side is giving anything away. >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of balanced approach that he promised americans. >> what is required is, you know, agreement by republicans to some specific revenues that includes raising
. if they're lucky by christmas. >> that would be wonder oofl how much closer to going over fiscal cliff tonight? we'll bring you that story when ke come back. >> a truck driver gets the blame for a fatal amtrak accident if acting just two seconds faster would it not have hatched. >> a hit uc berkeley tonight. a million dollar endowment to help undocumented students make it through college. abc 7 news at 6:00 continue >>> in washington another day and another step closer to that fiscal cliff. at this point it's hard to tell if there is any progress in the negotiations. and judging by public statements made by the speaker, it does not look good. abc 7 news mark matthews is here with word on what we're not seeing. >> yes. we heard speaker boehner called the president this evening to make a counter offer to the president's latest offer, when abc 7 news at 4:00 we talked about inside game@ú4d versus the outside gam. the out side game is played for leverage. inside is where real negotiations are taking place. >> in okay gress the american people have be scratching their heads and wondering w
this evening to discuss the latest proposals how to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. both sides are feeling the pressure from the nation's top corporate executives. 150 ceos including the heads of boing, honeywell and general electric. they're urging a compromise that includes increased revenue even if it means raising tax rates. more de tails now according to the non-partisan tax foundation the average family of four in the bay area would pay about $74 hun more in taxes if there is no deal on the fiscal cliff. that is a tad lower in san jose. if democrats and republicans don't reach an agreement by the end of this year. >>> on wall street stocks rose for a fifth consecutive day. the dow industrial gained 78 points, nasdaq gained 35 led by apple's 2% gain. >>> some immigrant students could soon have their dreams of a college education become reality thanks to a big gift to uc berkeley. today uc berkeley announced a $1 million gift to provide scholarships for low-income, undocumented students. the students qualify for state financial aid but not federal grants or loans. undocumented immigran
as a mile away. no injuries have been reported. >> the fiscal cliff creeping closer -- with no visible progress in negotiations between lawmakers. the main sticking point -- democrats wants to cut tax breaks for the wealthy. spending cuts. now, with less than three weeks until a deadline -- the words took a slightly sharper tone on capitol hill. >> a lot of people know that the president and died sat and met on the sunday. it was nice and cordial. -- the president and i-met on sunday but what spending cuts are they going to make to willing to make for the approach? where are the spending cuts? >> what i would do to respond to the speaker is to set the record straight. the fact is that the president has and the democrats have agreed to over 1.5, 1.6 trillion dollars in cuts. the budget control act and other acts of congress. these are what you, mr. speaker have a voted for. >> unless an agreement is reached, the fiscal cliff which is the combination of tax rate increases and automatic trigger budget cuts. are set to kick in at the beginning of next year. >>jacqueline: with the rainfall
steps to avoid the fiscal cliff. they spoke by phone again last night. but still doesn't appear to be any closer to a deal. >>> the governor of michigan has signed that controversial, new law which limits the influence of organized labor in the state. hundreds of union workers had protested the legislation ahead of the governor's action. michigan joins 23 other states with so-called right-to-work laws. those laws ban requirements that nonunion employees pay union dues for negotiating contracts and other services. >>> well, drug smugglers have found a pretty creative new way to get contraband into the u.s. they use a gas-powered canon to shoot dozens of cans of marijuana across the mexican border into arizona. unfortunately for them, border patrol agents got to the drugs before their buddies. they picked up 85 pounds of pot. in all, worth more than 40,000 bucks on the streets. >> they're resourceful, to say the least. >> yep. >>> time, now, for the weather from across the nation. another stormy day in florida, with heavy rain and gusty winds from miami to orlando. showers to the
warnings and it's likely to bring new sanctions against the north. >>> to the fiscal cliff now, leaders in washington have less than three weeks to reach a budget deal or else face automatic spending cuts and tax increases that are likely to send the country back into a recession. the agreement has been slow. president obama and congressional republicans remain split on raising taxes on upper middle-class americans. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest now. susan, good morning to you. >> hi. good morning, terrell. both sides are talking publicly about what they want. the gop pushing back against that. but privately negotiations do continue. in an exclusive interview airing on abc's "20/20" this friday night, president obama says he's optimistic a deal will be reached, and he's confident the gop won't hold the middle-class taxes hostage to protect higher income americans. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other, and think the key is to make sure the taxes go up on higher individuals like you and me, barbara. we can afford it. >> reporter: earlier on tuesday the presid
. >>> here is where we are on the fiscal cliff talks. we are less than three weeks now from the 1-2 punch of tax increases and government spending cuts and the two sides appear to be moving farther apart. here's house speaker john boehner describing his latest negotiations with the president, just over the phone last night. >> the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> dana bash is our senior congressional correspondent. she s unearthed some surprising new details here about the speaker's latest offer to the president. dana, what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, we were told first earlier today by democratic source that part of the reason why that phone call between the president and the speaker didn't go so well to put it mildly is because part of the republican counteroffer they sent to the white house yesterday included a renewed call for, quote, permanent tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. now, we know that that is a nonstarter in general for the president. he said it ump team times, but the democrats at the white house felt that to
that so-called fiscal cliff. in our new nbc news/wall street journal poll just out for us today, most americans say they want compromise. joining me here for our daily fix, chris, msnbc contributor and managing editor of the fiscal cliff, the people that we polled, americans get it. they want, two-thirds of them, 65% say they want a deal to be done. they want compromises even if it means targeted entitlement cuts and tax increases. >> yeah, and i don't think we should be terribly surprised by that, andrea. the truth of the matter is over the last decade or so what we've seen is congress, really, because of redistricting and other things like that, members of congress don't tend to have to represent the middle of the country. they wind up representing their two-party bases, the people that deeply disagree. democratic base does not want entitlement cuts, republican base does not want to raise taxes. but people in general like the idea congress can get something done on something big. now, i would say there's a little bit of devil in the details. the question does ask a
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